Full Debate MP3 Audio here. (2 hr 10 min)
Listen.
For some books dealing with the problem of suffering:
The Problem of Pain
- C.S. LewisThe Many Faces of Evil
- John FeinbergWhen God Weeps
- Joni Eareckson Tada & Steven EstesThe End of Christianity: Finding a Good God in an Evil World
- William Dembski
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Thanks for that overview, G. Kyle.
Thanks for this post. I watched the debate and posted a review on my blog. http://is.gd/bvP0k
What do you guys think about Bart's comments that there is no afterlife during the debate (which supported with scripture)?
Thanks for the summaries, Kyle and Gabriel. They convinced me to listen to this debate.
I too thought that Dr. Brown did a great job. He presented a strong case for the goodness of God in the midst of a world of sin. Further, Dr. Brown debated Ehrman with much grace and compassion despite his disagreements with Ehrman. Good job Dr. Brown!
I thought Brown's responses were full of false dichotomies and I created the following video response.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3XkVV8yqsA
It is truly unbelievable for Dr.Brown to quote C.S.Lewis to justify and explain the existence of evil in the world...
I've been very interested in debates recently. I have to say that this is one of the best debates I have heard so far. Dr. Brown made an excellent case (few people could have done better).
What made this debate worth listening to (imo) is that almost every time Dr. Brown talked, he ended with something uplifting and hopeful. This is really wonderful to hear in a debate. It strongly reminds me of the New Testament letters, where the writers end their letters in similar uplifting ways.
I wish there were more debates like these.
I am not sure anyone "wins" these debates. I think the supports of Drs Brown and Ehrman came away satisfied. Their approaches to the Bible were so radically different - comparing verses vs staying at 20,000 feet - that they largely talked past each other. I thought Dr Ehrman sounded a bit abrasive at times which could have been an edge he displays when he was fired up or simply signs of a strained voice. I, as an atheist, was somewhat annoyed by Dr Brown's use of the preaching style in a debate format. He seemed to pound the audience with the Good News as the answer to every question. As an apologist, I suppose that is to expected and perfectly acceptable to portions of the audience.
Perhaps the greatest problem with this debate is the fact that "Adequate" is hardly an objective position to defend or attack.
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