Debate: Is Mormonism Christianity? Walter Martin vs. Van Hale

Saturday, July 17, 2010

In this lively audio, the late great Walter Martin debates Van Hale on the topic: Is Mormonism Christianity? Martin is author of a number of excellent counter-cult books, including Kingdom of the Cults.

Full Debate MP3 Audio here. (90 min)

Enjoy.

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9 comments :

Davitor said...: Interesting to note that Van Hale remains Mormon.; Monday, July 19, 2010 at 4:30:00 PM GMT+1
Seth said...: Truth will not always change a person's mind, e.g. the Pharisees, in our modern court cases and many others.

Van Hale remaining a Mormon does nothing to discredit Walter Martin's arguments.; Monday, July 19, 2010 at 7:27:00 PM GMT+1
Davitor said...: My intention is not to discredit Walter Martin but simply point to the inability to change someones mind regardless of all the evidence.; Monday, July 19, 2010 at 9:53:00 PM GMT+1
Leslie said...: Well sure, but then again sometimes the evidence helps.

Honestly though, I think apologetics is almost more of an internal ministry than an external one, even when it involves external efforts.; Wednesday, July 21, 2010 at 10:04:00 PM GMT+1
bossmanham said...: This was a really exciting debate. I thought Dr. Martin really handed it to Van Hale, though I thought the debate too often got off track into personal issues.

Davitor, surely you don't think that no one in the world has changed their mind. Maybe many people dig in their heels regardless of the good arguments given, but many don't. That's why there are converts.; Thursday, July 22, 2010 at 10:07:00 PM GMT+1
Unknown said...: @Davitor: No human power can change a person's heart, it is only God who can change someone's heart, "Turning a heart of stone into a heart of flesh."; Thursday, July 22, 2010 at 10:34:00 PM GMT+1
Richard said...: "The heart is desperately wicked above all things. Who can know it?" Jeremiah 17:9 Absolutely now amount of apologetics will save someone. Only the regenerating work of God can change a man's heart, as TSR says.; Friday, July 23, 2010 at 9:10:00 PM GMT+1
Leslie said...: I guess that's why Paul argued in the synagogues everywhere he went, and before the people in Athens, and before kings and various other authorities, and why he told Timothy to be ready to give a defense. Because giving a defense is to no avail in leading a person to Christ.; Saturday, July 24, 2010 at 7:31:00 PM GMT+1
Anonymous said...: Good point, Leslie.

Davitor and others:

Could it be that the information in apologetic work is what God uses to change peoples' hearts? Why or why not?

After all, it was through preaching - the heralding of unheard of information - that God uses to save those that believe. (1 Corinthians 1:21)

Would it be possible to get some more debates with Mormons posted? (The fact that the US almost wound up with a Mormon president should tell us something of their frightening intent.)

Joshua; Tuesday, January 25, 2011 at 3:15:00 PM GMT